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PostSubject: M F Enterprises Captain marvel - can anyone help with recreation art please?   Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:07 pm

I am looking at revamping this character and would like some help from an artist to recreate to a more modern look.

Can anyone help me please?
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PostSubject: Re: M F Enterprises Captain marvel - can anyone help with recreation art please?   Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:38 am



I can try and visualize some stuff for you. I am an amateur artist but

it might at least get you on your way until a professional can take over.




Do you have any initial thoughts on what you want Captain Marvel to

look like?

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PostSubject: Re: M F Enterprises Captain marvel - can anyone help with recreation art please?   Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:00 pm

Hey Ten Cent, thanks fo the reply. I was hoping to update the character, for the suit, rather than the pinky coloured uniform, perhaps a blue or black leather type suit (think x-men movie.) I'm also looking at changing the name - I have one but I'm keeping it under wraps for now

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PostSubject: Re: M F Enterprises Captain marvel - can anyone help with recreation art please?   Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:07 pm

You know, so many characters these days are going with black/dark colored leather outfits. I guess it kinda makes sense for a more human vigilante or soldier who needs the protection of stealth, but for the sake of visual diversity, I would reserve the more bright and distinctive colors for those characters that are so powerful, they can walk into a room and be like, "yeah, I'm here...watcha gonna do about it punk?" As an alien android with bizarre powers, I imagine this Captain Marvel dosen't need stealth. I am imagining him as sort of scary and cyborg-alien looking. I'm thinking, keep the pink/purple color scheme, but make his suit look like over-exagerated muscle tissue without skin. Make his hero identity reveal a bit of his inhuman nature...it will make him look more scary, interesting and unique.

To update his powers, I'd say that his whole body is made up of nanobots, giving him more control over his body, but I'd say his head is just one piece...preventing him from taking on an uncharacteristic disguise ability.

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PostSubject: Re: M F Enterprises Captain marvel - can anyone help with recreation art please?   Sun Jun 19, 2011 2:26 am




Hey Flux,

Cool. I will try to work up some images as soon as I can. I will start with something subtle(movie X-men motorcycle gear).

I will also try to do some other designs. His name is changing, that is good. Are his powers the same? His origin? Is his origin

copyrighted by DC? I thought that Marvel has the name Captain Marvel trademarked or copyrighted.


Hope to post the images soon.
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PostSubject: Re: M F Enterprises Captain marvel - can anyone help with recreation art please?   Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:48 am

DC has never owned the MF Enterprises character...it is totally orphaned. It has little to do with the "big red cheese" Shazam character, except they have the same name.

Marvel currently owns the trademark on the name, but it doesn't really matter if transmooky changes it anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: M F Enterprises Captain marvel - can anyone help with recreation art please?   Sun Jun 19, 2011 8:10 am





Cool.
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PostSubject: Re: M F Enterprises Captain marvel - can anyone help with recreation art please?   Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:55 pm

Let's have some fun with the suit then, Ten Cent, and see what we can come up with.

Nice idea with the nanobots, Argo, I have come up with something similar to update him.

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PostSubject: Re: M F Enterprises Captain marvel - can anyone help with recreation art please?   Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:44 am


I attempted to do a different costume design with two different color schemes. The first one
is the Captain's traditional colors. The second is a monochromatic darker scheme.

It may not be even close to what you were hoping for but it was fun for me.Smile







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PostSubject: Re: M F Enterprises Captain marvel - can anyone help with recreation art please?   Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:42 pm

Wow, nice artwork! You're actually quite good. Love the coloring, and the costume design is quite original and cool looking.

One minor criticism for you though...based on the color scheme of the first one and the big barrel chest and dark hair, I'm guessing you were basing this on the original Shazam/Billy Batson character. MF Enterprises created a TOTALLY different character named Captain Marvel (who is PD), and that's the one transmooky wanted to redesign. This costume could work, but the original colors were actually red and a pinkish purple...

Here is a link, so you can see what the MF Enterprises character looks like: M.F. Enterprise Captain Marvel


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PostSubject: Re: M F Enterprises Captain marvel - can anyone help with recreation art please?   Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:59 pm

COOL! I like what you've done with the uniform Ten Cent, thanks for putting in the work.

I did try and put a picture of the MF Enterprises character on here but I've just noticed it is a red cross in a white box.

I'm not sure which one I like better but it will certainly spur me on to write the character.

I am writing for a new magazine and have three PD characters lined up to try and re-invent.

Could you mail me on here Ten Cent and I will give you my personal email address so you can mail me these designs, if you don't mind.

Once again, great job dude, love these pics.
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PostSubject: Re: M F Enterprises Captain marvel - can anyone help with recreation art please?   Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:34 am



Whoops!

I should have paid more attention to the fact that it is not the Billy Batson version.

The one you are re-vamping looks way more fun and cool. Are you going for the same fun

feel as the the 1966 one?

Thank you for your kind words about my somewhat underwhelming designs. Next time I

will try and understand what is ask for before I spin off in a random direction.

Transmooky, if you want the images you should be able to right click and "save as".

The images on the post are the final resolution I saved out to, unless you want them bigger.
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PostSubject: Re: M F Enterprises Captain marvel - can anyone help with recreation art please?   Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:11 pm

I love ten cent's work, but here is more along the lines of what I was thinking for the characters redesign:



With this version of the character, the armor is made of nanobots which can take any shape, allowing "The Marvel" to form weapons and repair his own armor (regeneration). I kept the original color scheme 'cause it makes him look unique, but I think I've made him look a lot more scary, alien and robotic.

All ideas in this post, written or drawn, are public domain. The image itself is freely licensed to board members.
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PostSubject: Re: M F Enterprises Captain marvel - can anyone help with recreation art please?   Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:22 pm

Hey Argo, that's pretty cool. It looks unique like you say.

Ten Cent if you want to try and have another go that's cool with me. I might even use the other art you did for other characters if that's ok.

Keep up the great work guys.
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PostSubject: Re: M F Enterprises Captain marvel - can anyone help with recreation art please?   Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:37 am




Nice, Argosail! That looks really cool. And it's in keeping with that version of the

character.

Transmooky, feel free to use the two images I did however you wish. I might try

another crack at the concept if I can make time.


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PostSubject: Re: M F Enterprises Captain marvel - can anyone help with recreation art please?   Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:34 am

How about you just change the colours on your design Ten Cent, I like the designs done by you both but Argo has declared his PD and I want to keep mine separate while I'm working on it for the magazine.

Hopefully that shouldn't take up too much time buddy

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PostSubject: Re: M F Enterprises Captain marvel - can anyone help with recreation art please?   Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:04 pm

Ok so I started writing The Marvel based on M F Enterprises version, but I just wondered - Ten Cent did a fantastic version of Fawcett Captain Marvel in a an earlier post on this thread - do you think I could use that red and yellow version - maybe have him derive powers from Roman Gods - and shout an amalgam of their names to turn in to Captain Marvel. I'm a little unclear as to what I can and cannot do with this character - I doubt DC would sue me anyway as it would just fall in to the realm of fan fiction surely?
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PostSubject: Re: M F Enterprises Captain marvel - can anyone help with recreation art please?   Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:12 pm

First of all, I was behind in this thread, so I just saw the artwork/redesigns, and loved them all!

Now, Transmooky, we discussed the Billy Batson version of Captain Marvel over on page 2 of the "The Trademarked Name Game" thread in the "Legal Questions and Debate" board. As I understand it, you can use the concept due to lack of copyright renewal, but DC's got trademarks that mean that you can't use the name "Captain Marvel," "Billy Batson," or the word "Shazam!" So, in essence, you'd be creating a new pastiche character of the Big Red Cheese. I suggest you check out that thread for some of the idea we came up with for names and magic words. Hopefully something there will click with you!
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PostSubject: Re: M F Enterprises Captain marvel - can anyone help with recreation art please?   Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:40 pm

Great, thanks for the info. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: M F Enterprises Captain marvel - can anyone help with recreation art please?   Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:27 am

Actually, Marvel owns the trademark on the name Captain Marvel, not DC. It's an important distinction, because DC still calls Captain Marvel, Captain Marvel in comics, cartoons and video games (in DC vs. Mortal Kombat, Captain Marvel is the name that shows up under his health bar). Even the herclix action figure has the name Captain Marvel printed on it (Heroclix are blind purchase). But Marvel owns that name! You ABSOLUTELY can use that name, and the names Billy Batson and the word Shazam! within a story...just not on a cover or in an ad. You don't need to change the character at all, he's public domain. To me, this is a little bit like saying, let's change Santa Claus into "Snow Elf" and give him a red leather jacket instead of his usual outfit, because Tim Allen might sue us. He might, but he won't win....
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PostSubject: Re: M F Enterprises Captain marvel - can anyone help with recreation art please?   Wed Jul 06, 2011 3:33 am

argosail wrote:
You ABSOLUTELY can use that name, and the names Billy Batson and the word Shazam! within a story...just not on a cover or in an ad. You don't need to change the character at all, he's public domain. To me, this is a little bit like saying, let's change Santa Claus into "Snow Elf" and give him a red leather jacket instead of his usual outfit, because Tim Allen might sue us. He might, but he won't win....

I stand corrected! Honestly, every time I think I have a handle on this legal stuff, I find out I'm wrong! That's one of the reasons why, for the most part, I prefer the characters who haven't been published since their original appearances!
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PostSubject: Re: M F Enterprises Captain marvel - can anyone help with recreation art please?   Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:44 pm

Well I'm going to use both versions of Captain Marvel above - makes sense to alter the costumes a little to distinguish them from others but hey I can use, SHAZAM!, in a story - COOL!!!
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PostSubject: Re: M F Enterprises Captain marvel - can anyone help with recreation art please?   Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:08 pm

A little taster of The Marvel: Based on M F Enterprises Captain Marvel -


William Braxton listened as his daughter, Billie, chattered excitedly to her doll as if they were having a real conversation.

He grinned as he thought back to his own childhood friend, The Marvel. Many thought that Marvel was a figment of Braxton’s imagination, but he knew better.

The Marvel had been a hero back in the sixties, an android from a doomed planet that had made Earth home.

Young William and his amazing friend had had some fantastic adventures and yet as time and technology moved on, The Marvel became outdated and useless in fights against more gadget-developed criminals.

The Marvel had retired from crime fighting in the early seventies and disappeared.

Braxton had, of course, gone on with his life, went to college, got a job, met a girl and started a family. He never forgot those times with The Marvel though.


- that's all I'm going to post for now

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PostSubject: Re: M F Enterprises Captain marvel - can anyone help with recreation art please?   Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:29 am

Arrow Wow,that is so cool,keep up the good work. Basketball
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