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PostSubject: Re: Americanized Sentai w/realism...I know...oxymoron   Americanized Sentai w/realism...I know...oxymoron - Page 2 EmptyTue Mar 03, 2015 7:50 am

I think it would be fun to take some of the ideas, such as what the colours represent, and the social differences, to come up with an interesting Super Sentai type of team, and some versions of characters like Moonlight Mask would be fun.
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Those are great articles. Diversity is sure nice to see in superhero comics, especially if you're trying to avoid supers based on general preconceived notions of people.
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PostSubject: Re: Americanized Sentai w/realism...I know...oxymoron   Americanized Sentai w/realism...I know...oxymoron - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 04, 2015 10:00 pm

I was trying to make my fictional universe more diverse, and thought it would be good to try to understand what another culture's ideas of superheroism were, rather than just look at the surface things.
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PostSubject: Re: Americanized Sentai w/realism...I know...oxymoron   Americanized Sentai w/realism...I know...oxymoron - Page 2 EmptyThu Apr 02, 2015 2:05 pm

The idea of people coming together for a cause, yet not 'clicking' the instant they sit down, and still not agreeing with each other, except when they needed to come together sounded good to me, and Cpt Whizz's idea was a good one, how people from other countries see the US, and we see them, learning from them, yet bumping heads sometimes.
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PostSubject: Re: Americanized Sentai w/realism...I know...oxymoron   Americanized Sentai w/realism...I know...oxymoron - Page 2 EmptyWed Apr 08, 2015 5:09 am

What I've been thinking of is a team of 5 that is brought together by a government agency, headhunted for their skills, abilities, knowledge, expertise, etc. Colour-coded uniforms. Personal development, and relationships between the team members, are important. The team does not start at the peak of their powers, but grows into them.

I'm not currently sure whether the powers/ abilities will be magical or science-based.
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PostSubject: Re: Americanized Sentai w/realism...I know...oxymoron   Americanized Sentai w/realism...I know...oxymoron - Page 2 EmptyFri Apr 10, 2015 3:40 am

I had a little of the same idea, team of 3-5, a super secret group (maybe an individual) with deep pockets acts looks for these recruits after his 'research' team finds each of them. My take on it was they were soldiers, ex-soldiers that got thrown together but aren't very friendly toward each other, and it stays antagonistic for a bit. I didn't want to make it too similar to MMPR, but try to give a futuristic military feel to it.

(Maybe the individual that sets them up is a human from Earth's future?) Maybe a rogue from the CIA or someplace like that, who is looking to fund a group that would be willing to get their hands dirty to fight for the right cause. (Tug on their patriotism strings a little.)

My idea was to give the guys I was thinking of 'advanced science'-so the people think it's magic, the team doesn't say anything because the idea of the 'threat of the week' is enough, and telling the public, that yes, there is life 'out there', might put the public on edge like Luthor does, trying to cry 'Superman's a threat, an alien!' every time a camera is pointed at him.

Through all my ideas on this, I really did like the idea of them not getting along. (Anyone remember Wolverine in the early days of the X-Men comics?) Cyclops and Wolverine were always at each other about something, until the big fight and even after, sometimes.

Although I do like the tech, and world-building aspects of doing something from scratch, I'd rather read about characters and their journey first of all.

(If I could have been given the gene for drawing, I would have been sketching ideas already.)
I had all kinds of notes and pics of things I liked about this or that character's uniform/costume, current/future military research (even an idea about a new armor for soldiers and then not three months later, Superior Iron Man debuts it)!

Any of this too similar to your ideas Cpt.?

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PostSubject: Re: Americanized Sentai w/realism...I know...oxymoron   Americanized Sentai w/realism...I know...oxymoron - Page 2 EmptyFri Apr 10, 2015 7:55 am

My ideas were coming from the desire to flesh out my burgeoning universe (timeline listed at https://universe.forumakers.com/t370p34-the-wip-whizz-verse ) with some diversity. I have lots of American characters, and a few British, with hardly any others. So I wanted to introduce some ethnic/ cultural diversity.

Originally, I was going to do an all-Japanese group, but from what you've said, and reading about Battle Fever J's concept ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_Fever_J ), I think some sort of UN group would be great. The different members clash because of their different personalities, and also their different nationalities. Some of the most technologically and economically-powerful nations (possibly including many of those with nuclear capability) decide to pool their resources, getting their greatest scientific minds together to come up with advanced powered armour and vehicles. In my universe, they may well be in response to my Justice League/ Avengers equivalent- the nations want superheroes that they control, heroes that are chosen by them, with powers that can be taken away- basically, I guess a team of Iron Man suits to be worn by whoever is deemed worthy. They can defend the Earth from threats, and are also an insurance policy against good superheroes going rogue (spoilers- this WILL happen in my universe).

In my timeline, I envisage this happening somewhere around the 80s, as in my universe, technology develops faster than the real world from about the mid-70s.
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PostSubject: Re: Americanized Sentai w/realism...I know...oxymoron   Americanized Sentai w/realism...I know...oxymoron - Page 2 EmptySun Apr 12, 2015 7:32 pm

I had sort of a legacy idea, starting "5 min into the future", with a current crop of recruits that find out Earth is a small piece of a much larger picture, aliens are real, and teams have been recruited to train and serve as a 'last resort' weapon of sorts, and that this unknown battle has been going on since just prior to WWII, possibly decades, last century

(The legacy could refer to a specific character passing the identity to a new generation, or the team itself existing for so long, rumors are heard that the members are immortal, superhuman, etc.)

(The teams prior to WWII would have been working with late 30s/early 40s tech, no alien crafts to reverse engineer.)

Allied and Axis governments compete to successfully genetically engineer soldiers that would be considered to be 'super'. Just as Von Braun and his team of rocket scientists came over to the US in the late 40s and helped get NASA started and a manned mission to the moon, the US gov't talked several scientists from the other side to defect to the US and work on augmenting human subjects.

As more alien tech is recovered, the more advanced the world's military tech becomes, as that tech filters down to civilian scientists who are working on the same ideas, to unlock human potential.

Just my two cents of an idea.

Or I could go with the current team stuck in the past, no access to tech that could help them, or the past team gets bumped into the future.

(I had the idea of seeing 40s - now, character ideas, weapons, robots/androids influenced by the time. Similar to how children in the 40s-60s believed Flash Gordon, the Rocketman/Commando Cody, Buck Rogers and other scifi tech were believable.)

I like the idea of the characters scrambling to collect, fix and use the tech available to them when their own tech doesn't work.
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PostSubject: Re: Americanized Sentai w/realism...I know...oxymoron   Americanized Sentai w/realism...I know...oxymoron - Page 2 EmptyMon Feb 01, 2016 8:15 am

Anyone around?
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PostSubject: Re: Americanized Sentai w/realism...I know...oxymoron   Americanized Sentai w/realism...I know...oxymoron - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 16, 2016 8:44 am

SuperHeroFan wrote:
Anyone around?

I still check in from time to time. Haven't had a chance much lately, but I still look in.
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PostSubject: Re: Americanized Sentai w/realism...I know...oxymoron   Americanized Sentai w/realism...I know...oxymoron - Page 2 EmptySun Apr 03, 2016 2:41 am

I've written the Steel Sentinels into my universe's timeline now. Imagine Battle Fever J crossed with Pacific Rim, if they were in power armoured suits rather than humungous mecha. It's 1987, the end of the Soviet Union is fast approaching, the US has a military base on the moon, and the five "nuclear-weapon states" go live with their Steel Sentinels project! Russia, America, China, the UK, and France (yay, France.....) are protecting the planet with armoured heroes!
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PostSubject: Re: Americanized Sentai w/realism...I know...oxymoron   Americanized Sentai w/realism...I know...oxymoron - Page 2 EmptySun Apr 03, 2016 8:49 am

Imagine my surprise when I read your reply, and I had just been doing some surfing and found a site for older sentai, and it was battlefeverj.com!

I've always liked Captain America, Iron Man types of characters- just normal people that through experimentation on themselves or tech, they become heroes so I've been a fan of Power Rangers since MMPR, and have been getting into their original sentai.

I saw Pacific Rim, and thought 'there goes my ideas' lol. I have a group of PD characters I like, but am struggling to figure out just how to adapt them without being just another Cap A / sentai / IM derivative, as I also like the idea of an alternate history, nothing too different, just things occur slightly earlier in the timeline.

"In my timeline, I envisage this happening somewhere around the 80s, as in my universe, technology develops faster than the real world from about the mid-70s."

I read that, and my TL (in my head so far) I bump up the post WW2 German rocketry teams getting things done quicker so Gemini, Mercury and Apollo happen slightly earlier, Skylab occurs just a few years earlier than in RL, and so the ISS is more of a DC's 'Watchtower' for their covert heroes and teams. (It's made out to by NASA's public relations team to house astronauts and civilian experiments, not heroes with abilities 'beyond those of mortals'.)

Also, I really liked these guys when they briefly were in the DCU - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket_Red_Brigade

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PostSubject: Re: Americanized Sentai w/realism...I know...oxymoron   Americanized Sentai w/realism...I know...oxymoron - Page 2 EmptyTue Aug 02, 2016 4:31 pm

Cpt. W,

Any more about your Steel Sentinels, they sound interesting.

I had another 'oh man' moment. I read Detective Comics, and another idea I had, and was working on, was put together in the book lol.

I was thinking about a military unit, or a private company of ex-soldiers, etc. are recruited to be heroes. Say, a particular hero, Batman for example as in the book. Dozens of people trained as Batman trained let loose in an ISIS stronghold for example. The soldiers get an extended course in how to be that hero, how he moves, fights, uses his tech..so Batman IS everywhere at once, minus the cowl and cape, but armored up with a helmet, comm link, and the assorted tech Batman would use, minus the bat-theme.

Delta Force, the SEALs, Rangers on steroids. Batman + Cap. A + Punisher (maybe chemically enhanced (in a 'powered' sort of way), that's what I was thinking about.)

Detective Comics is on pt 4 'Rise of the Batmen'.

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PostSubject: Re: Americanized Sentai w/realism...I know...oxymoron   Americanized Sentai w/realism...I know...oxymoron - Page 2 EmptySun Dec 26, 2021 5:08 pm

Jay Piscopo set up some characters as part of his Danger Comics page. One is a character named American Ace, a homage to the movie serial version of Captain America. I went with a more sentai version, with four American Aces. I hired an artist to bring them to life, and he sent me this sketch of the four members:

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One of their enemies is a new take on The Black Ace Gang, who fought Captain Marvel jr. once. The original group wasn't that impressive, but the concept is (given it predates the Royal Flush Gang by about 15 years or so). I modified their look, using the MLJ hero Black Jack as inspiration for their costumes:

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Their origins are tied together, and the Jack from both groups are brothers. still working out the details, but I like how the visuals are coming together for both groups
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