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PostSubject: Using PD characters    Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:06 pm

Hi all,

I was going to use a PD character in the story (still notes and research) but another co. is now using it in a series, but the question I have is:

I've read different places that I could use a PD char even if he/she/it is used by another company as long as I use the PD origin and such BEFORE the new co. write stories w/them. If the 'new' character is essentially the same as the original PD version, I'm out of luck, correct?

Or can I just use bits of the origin, powers, etc. and just change the name?

http://pdsh.wikia.com/wiki/Liberator

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberator_%28Nedor_Comics%29

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Nelson_Drew_%28Earth-ABC%29
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PostSubject: Re: Using PD characters    Thu Dec 04, 2014 3:17 am

If a company uses a PD character, they can only claim to own bits that they add to the character, not the original bits. So if a company makes Sherlock Holmes an alien, then you can use the original version, but you might well be in trouble if you used their alien idea.
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PostSubject: Re: Using PD characters    Fri Dec 05, 2014 2:50 am

Exactly. Once a character is in the PD, it's okay for anyone to use him or her. BBC and CBS both have (very different) modern versions of Sherlock Holmes on TV. And this time of year, everyone and their brother uses Santa Claus for everything from commercials to major motion pictures. That doesn't pull these characters out of public domain.
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PostSubject: Re: Using PD characters    Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:39 am

Thanks to the both of you! Now I have to completely rethink another part of the story, as another part I just read was used in a comic last month. <pounding my head against the desk.
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PostSubject: Re: Using PD characters    Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:11 pm

What's the piece that's causing you a problem? Maybe there's a way around it?
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PostSubject: Re: Using PD characters    Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:24 am

Yeah, give us some details, SHF. Maybe there's an easy work around. Or maybe it's a nonissue. Like, I've seen several modern movies that update Santa Claus to use a "rocket sleigh." If it's a minor thing that just makes sense for the character that you came up with independently, you might be okay.
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PostSubject: HELP?!   Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:25 am

GB and Capt.,

Thanks for asking. It was the fact that I read that the new title Superior Iron Man has a new type of armor called -

Endo-sym Armor. It's a new Extremis-type (3.0) which is a liquid metal armor that hardens on connection. Rather than relying on a technological element for the initial bonding process, it also contains some symbiotic genetic material.
(The armor retrieval is now psionic again.) There is a stealth graphene coating that covers his face because he uses a face mask on his helmet a lot less now.)

The Stark in the book is pre-Iron Man Tony without the shrapnel in the heart, a real jerk.

Anyway, I did a little research on the same sort of liquid metal and read a lot of US/UK links on future soldier armor, and other futuristic items. And I had thought about having a peaceful symbiote bonding with the team leader and off-shooting to the others to provide enhanced abilities and strengthening the armor even more.

Just one link of many - http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/04/05/forget-kevlar-liquid-body-armor-hardens-on-impact/

I don't know what else to do. Oh, yeah..Stark has taken the Extremis 3.0 and put it in a phone app. He charges .99c for it the 1st 24hrs, then $100 dollars a day afterward. What a guy.

I'm blocked.

Let me ask, are there any characters that have vehicles w/AI in them? Being original is HARD lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Using PD characters    Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:36 pm

Anyone? I know it's the holidays...It's dark in here, I hear footsteps...is that a....?!

J/K Anyone here?
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PostSubject: Re: Using PD characters    Wed Dec 17, 2014 3:06 am

Which PD character are you using?

If you're worried about just using some form of intelligent (or semi-intelligent) metal that can change between fluid and hard just because there's something similar in Iron Man, then don't. Besides, if something exists in the real world, or is close to existing, then it's fair game.
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PostSubject: Re: Using PD characters    Sat Dec 20, 2014 10:39 am

What Whizz said. If the technology exists, then you can use it. Do you know how many times over the past decade or so I've read about characters who got powers or abilities via nanotechnology? Heck, 90% of the heroes in the pulps used .45 automatics, cars, and autogyros. It would be different if Marvel invented the liquid armor, but it's out there; they just used it. So can you.

The one caveat is that if your character used the liquid armor to battle evil with repulsor rays (basically becoming an Iron Man clone), you might be in trouble. But it doesn't sound like that's the case, so go for it.
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PostSubject: Re: Using PD characters    Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:22 pm

If you want a good example of how much you can get away with, check out Squadron Sinister/ Squadron Supreme, or these pages:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/CaptainErsatz/ComicBooks

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AlternateCompanyEquivalent
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PostSubject: Re: Using PD characters    Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:53 am

Captain,

I was planning on using Liberator in some way, and the armor was going to be defensive for the most part, no real offensive weapons like repulsors. Just basically using it as a secondary armor.

I did check out the two articles you linked, but tvtropes sucks someone in and then, it's four hours later! lol

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PostSubject: Re: Using PD characters    Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:14 am

SuperHeroFan wrote:
I was planning on using Liberator in some way, and the armor was going to be defensive for the most part, no real offensive weapons like repulsors. Just basically using it as a secondary armor.

If that's the case, I don't see a problem. Otherwise, anybody who wore armor made of regular metal would have been a copy of Tony Stark's original armor! Just use it and don't worry.
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